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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 03:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Glen Bradford</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[gmcr, cbou, ddrx &#8212; i dunno. i had a list somewhere of the overpriced coffee stocks. i&#8217;m just saying like in Disney&#8217;s movie Jungle 2 Jungle. Get out of Coffee.cphi &#8211; still like itchbp &#8211; scared, not always profitableskbi/skbo &#8211; will look again later during when the market is open so i can look at [...]<script type="text/javascript">SHARETHIS.addEntry({ title: "Coffee = Overpriced", url: "http://www.globalspeculation.com/archives/179" });</script>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gmcr, cbou, ddrx &#8212; i dunno. i had a list somewhere of the overpriced coffee stocks. i&#8217;m just saying like in Disney&#8217;s movie Jungle 2 Jungle. Get out of Coffee.<br />cphi &#8211; still like it<br />chbp &#8211; scared, not always profitable<br />skbi/skbo &#8211; will look again later during when the market is open so i can look at the bid/ask. this thing is thinly traded and might be good.<br />hlf &#8211; not cheap enough for me to buy right now, but will likely outperform the market in the next 2 years, revenues sucked last 2 quarters<br />utvl &#8211; this thing is going to the NYSE. Tom suggested that there are more shares than google says there are out there, dont have time to check. mcconnel (purdue professor) suggested 5% appreciation on average before listing and 5% decline in price for 6 months post listing on NYSE.<br />pcap &#8211; like it<br />acas &#8211; like it<br />mcgc &#8211; like it<br />gnw &#8211; like it<br />cno &#8211; like it<br />ahr &#8211; like it<br />grvy &#8211; seems poorly managed. no increase in revenues and yet increased expenses.<br />gfre &#8211; guidance includes dilution, i&#8217;m scared!<br />jadae &#8211; most of its income is from its discontinued operations in 2008<br />sclx &#8211; following up with company, added to my sorting list.<br />utvl &#8211; huge growth potential, will it be exercised? i&#8217;ll buy some<br />chcg &#8211; topside catalyst: franchise strategy, downside force: decreasing profit margins, i&#8217;ll buy some &#8211; i sold at around $1.50 to buy other deals.<br />gtls &#8211; prolly will appreciate in price over the next 2 years. just not enough for me to mention<br />snen &#8211; blah, just don&#8217;t know. what happens when this loss goes away? is the business growing? you&#8217;d think so&#8230; but there isn&#8217;t a very clear trend to me. negative cash from operations lately. lets wait and see .. throw this with nwd</p>
<p>i need to look at<br />bucy, cedc, midd, and my old stocks again to dump some money into for an investor that wants a safer play.</p>
<p>Now &#8212; for some emails:</p>
<p>First, a picture: I picked the bottom on this one. Luck or skill &#8212; your choice.</p>
<p><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.glenbradford.com/files/Stocks/pnc.jpg"><img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 961px; height: 502px;" src="http://www.glenbradford.com/files/Stocks/pnc.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a></p>
<p>So, what do we do now? It’s got a P/E of about 10, maybe a little higher than that. You are getting a 6.4% dividend here. The trailing 12 month P/E is 14.</p>
<p>Historically trades between $60-$70. Was as high as $50 recently.</p>
<p>You’re looking at 1 year upside potential of about 75% (maybe going higher than where they traded historically cause they picked up National City). I think we could very easily sell out of this around $50 here shortly &#8212; or you could just bail now and try to ride something else with more upside.<br />&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />T &#8212; I didn’t bet on this one. I don’t know whether it will outperform or underperform. If you don’t know, don’t bet.</p>
<p>You bought it at $20, which baffles me because its 52-week low was $20.90 according to Google. So, you got the bottom, luck or skill.</p>
<p>There’s a double bottom on this one in October and March around $21. They just increased their dividend in Q1 2009. Their dividend is sustainable and pays 6.9%. There was some huge acquisition or something at the beginning of 2007 that exploded revenues. I think from mid 2007 to mid 2008, this was overpriced because of this abnormal growth.</p>
<p>I’d be getting out at $30. I might even be willing to jump ship at $25 depending on if there is something else out there that’s better.</p>
<p>I just downloaded all the larger companies I was looking at this fall. Out of the batch of them, there are probably over half that are still improving as if there wasn’t a crisis, but are priced now as if the crisis is supposed to hurt business.</p>
<p>I’ll be sorting through them here shortly and if I think I can choose 2-3 of the best to replace PNC, that’s what I’ll do.<br />&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />UTVL-Good call on the details. It is incredibly undervalued compared to its competitors. It just got listed on NYSE amex. There is some dilution.</p>
<p>Their SSD segment is losing sales fast. I don&#8217;t know if that&#8217;s due to cannibalization or what. Other segments are growing well. This last quarter they did not grow rev or earnings, but I think that&#8217;s probably due to seasonality and the worst of the recession.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll probably invest a little and see what new things develop.</p>
<p>Tom<br />On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Bradford, Glen Richard <gbrad> wrote:<br />I think you are wrong here.</p>
<p>There were about 41M shares outstanding according to their 10K.</p>
<p>Then they reverse split on march 31, 2009. http://www.pinksheets.com/edgar/GetFilingHtml?FilingID=6513635</p>
<p>I think google’s share count is right.</p>
<p>What are your thoughts?</p>
<p>Glen</p>
<p>From: tcorm [mailto:tcorso] On Behalf Of Tom Corson-Knowles<br />Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 1:04 PM<br />To: Bradford, Glen Richard<br />Subject: UTVL</p>
<p>Hey,</p>
<p>UTVL has the wrong market cap shown on google finance. There are 38M share outstanding, so the real book value is almost $230 M. With $18M expected income for 2009, before dilution, that P/E seems high at over 20.</p>
<p>Tom<br />&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />The price goes up about 5% on the announcement and transition weeks, then trails off 5% over the next 6 weeks</p>
<p>________________________________________<br />From: Bradford, Glen Richard<br />Sent: Sun 5/24/2009 10:09 AM<br />To: McConnell, John J<br />Subject: OTCBB to NYSE Stock<br />Hey John,</p>
<p>First, I’d like to thank you for passing me in Finance the 3rd module this year. Second, I want your opinion on the average stock price changes on a company that goes from OTCBB to the NYSE.<br />&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />Hi Glen,</p>
<p>if you like ACAS, you&#8217;ll love PCAP.</p>
<p>PCAP is in the same business, but has far fewer bad loans and a lower price/book, P/E and debt/equity.<br />They have violated bank covenants also, but only barely and recently.</p>
<p>Debt/equity is .96 vs 1.58 at ACAS, P/E (2010) 2.3 vs 4.2, price/book .22 vs .26</p>
<p>Slightly more expensive, but not much, is MCGC, which is in compliance with all covenants and will resume dividends earlier than the other two.</p>
<p>Among the chinese stocks, OPAI.OB is still trading at a P/E of 2, and half of book despite 30% growth.</p>
<p>I enjoy your articles very much. They are the best of all on SA, and I made a lot of money thanks to you.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Fred</p>
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